The terms “green” and “sustainability” are often used as if they’re synonymous or interchangeable. This misconception confuses the issues and often leaves us arguing about minutiae when we should be discussing meaningful solutions.
If there is one key takeaway from our SXSW panel on accelerating sustainability through social media, it’s that there is a fundamental misunderstanding between what it means to be sustainable and what it means to be green. Though these two concepts may be compatible and even complementary, they are far from synonymous. In the following we hope to clear up the confusion we’ve observed between green living tips and sustainable systems.
The panel started out with short introductions and presentations from each of the panelists. It turned out that these were none too short and tended toward the redundant. Ours addressed the first question most people have (Who is Max Gladwell?) with a few slides that illustrate what the brand stands for i.e. the nexus of social media and green living.
In the interest of time, we chose not to hit on the final two slides, which would have offered some real world context. Instead, we left off with the following comment (taken from our notes):
Sustainability is about new systems. New energy systems. New agricultural systems. New transportation systems and new information systems. That’s where social media plays a big role. Sustainability is also about decentralization. We need to decentralize energy and food production. Each of us can become energy producers through solar, wind, and efficiency technologies…in the same way we’ve become information producers through blogs, wikis, and online video.
Our presentation was the second of four, and by this time the audience was already getting restless. We were using the Twitter hashtag #SMFS, so we were getting real-time feedback. One Tweet referenced social media’s use of electricity as a paradox for sustainability, as if to say, “How can social media accelerate sustainability when it uses energy?” Another hit on the transportation issue of flying to conferences to talk about sustainability, as if those emissions couldn’t possibly be justified by the solutions we might discover through this collaboration, and another made an unsubstantiated claim that servers and computers will one day consume more energy than air travel, though that is conceivable. All of which is unfortunate because while the topic of the panel was sustainability, the bulk of the conversation centered on being green. Are the they same thing? Far from it.
Sustainability vs. Green
Sustainability is a macro concept. It’s a big concept that applies more broadly to entire systems and infrastructures such as the global economy. The true gravity of the term is somewhat elusive, in part because it is absolute. Either something is sustainable or it’s not. There’s no middle ground. To refer to something as “more sustainable” is to essentially say that something is more infinite. It’s also like saying that something is very unique. We make this mistake pretty often, but what this essentially says is that something is very one of a kind. Either it is or it isn’t.
Green, on the other hand, is a micro concept. We deal with green in our everyday lives with things like clothing, food, lighting, cars, and a long list of best practices. Green is a pretty easy concept to understand in part because it’s relative. It is measured on a scale from dirty to clean or toxic to non-toxic. We often think in terms of the different shades of green. One person’s green can be another person’s, well, not green. That’s also why we have so much trouble with the green label and why we always will. It’s why people from all sides of the political spectrum can point to supposed hypocrisies from those who embrace and support green living. Since the concept is relative, there’s always a way to be greener. As we like to say, the poor are pretty green but they’re positively wasteful compared to those living in extreme poverty. Sure, it’s absurd, but where do you draw the line in a world where everything is relative?
Despite our tagline (Social Media and Green Living), Max Gladwell is much more about sustainability than green. Admittedly, the choice to position ourselves as “the nexus of social media and green living” was driven by the expediency of the term. We’re guilty of using “green” as a lay term for sustainability simply because it sounds and works better. It’s vitally important, though, to acknowledge and understand the difference.
Going Green and Greenwashing
There is no shortage of green tips, products, or solutions. Again, that’s the result of being a relative concept. Anything can be green. Replacing your incandescent light bulb with a CFL is green, but so is replacing your whale-oil lamp with an incandescent light bulb. Riding the bus and driving a hybrid car are green choices…relative to driving a Hummer. But none of these green options are sustainable. If everyone replaced their light bulbs with CFLs or drove Priuses, it would only delay the inevitable (and assuage our guilt). We’d still be using non-renewable (unsustainable) forms of energy. We’d be using them more efficiently, but that’s still not sustainable. It’s just green…relatively speaking.
Before we delve into sustainability, though, we’d like to address the notion of greenwashing, as it was addressed during our panel.
A woman stepped to the microphone and tried to make the case that greenwashing was good because it drove awareness for green. In other words, despite the false claims being made by companies such as Clorox and BP, the awareness this type of advertising generates produces a net positive. In basic logic terms, this is known as the ends justifying the means, and we know that no matter how wonderful the outcome, it can never justify the immoral path that was taken to get there. If that were the case, we could justify slavery, genocide, and other atrocities provided we can demonstrate that the result was somehow positive. Regardless of the details of these types of arguments, they can be readily dismissed due to faulty logic. ‘Nough said.
A Sustainable Mail System
When it comes to the notion of sustainability, it is, by definition, absolute and generally refers to entire systems. Just as the Cradle to Cradle philosophy describes sustainable systems for designing and producing things, Jared Diamond’s Collapse details how unsustainable systems have lead to the demise and collapse of entire societies throughout human history. Cradle to Cradle opened our eyes to the notion of upcycling by design as opposed to downcycling by necessity. Recycling is green, but upcycling is sustainable. Upcycling is based on a new system, whereas recycling attempts to green an existing system.
The last slide in our presentation speaks to this dichotomy. It shows the homepage for Zumbox, which bills itself as the first “all-digital postal mail system.” We’ve written about the company several times and (full disclosure) currently provide web strategy services. The problem Zumbox addresses is the unsustainable nature of our current postal mail system i.e paper mail. We’re consuming 150 million trees per year via the USPS, not to mention the emissions and waste this generates, and nearly all of this mail starts digital. But because mail is stuck in the 19th century, those files are printed and trucked across the country as if they were precious parcels that just had to be physically delivered. It seems obvious that transporting digital files in this way is unsustainable on an environmental level. And if the financial losses are any indication, it doesn’t appear to be economically viable, either.
Zumbox isn’t the first to address this problem, but all other attempts have amounted to green solutions. You can use recycled paper. You can recycle the paper you receive. You can reduce the volume of paper you receive by hiring third parties stop junk mail, or you can selectively choose various types of online billing. You can also have your paper mail scanned and displayed online so you can choose which pieces of paper you wish to receive. Each of these seeks to compensate for the existing system by offering incremental improvements. These are the green approaches–the Priuses of paper mail, if you will. They’re commendable for sure, but they do nothing to address the systemic issue of printing and shipping digital files.
Zumbox rethinks the system itself. By leveraging a technology and communications infrastructure that’s been built up over the past 10 years (or more), Zumbox enables mail to be sent and delivered online with zero paper. This new system maintains some of the familiar methods of the old one, such as using street addresses to send mail, but it does so in a sustainable manner. Zumbox isn’t a green solution. It is a sustainable alternative.
The counterpoint to this might be that Zumbox is left with an energy problem that undermines its claim of sustainability, and that’s partly true. However, the actual system that Zumbox addresses is not energy but rather paper mail. Energy is a tremendous aspect of both systems (paper and paperless), and it needs to be addressed on its own. Energy is a nearly universal problem that affects all other systems. This conundrum is similar to that of transportation.
Electric vehicles are sustainable and internal combustion engines are not. Electric vehicles represent a new transportation system that can run on renewable solar and wind power today. Most don’t have access to those sources of energy, so they have to utilize the unsustainable energy system of coal and natural gas. This is done at higher rates of efficiency than internal combustion with zero tailpipe emissions, which makes the energy source green (relatively speaking, of course). But the electric vehicle transportation system itself is sustainable. It’s not an incremental improvement over internal combustion. It is a complete rethinking. Like Zumbox, though, it depends on an unsustainable energy system, but that doesn’t mean that the system itself is unsustainable.
A Sustainable Information System
Which brings us to the final point on social media. This phenomenon did not happen overnight. It was an evolution that required tremendous investment and technological innovation to achieve. We tend to take it for granted that social media and Web 2.0 just happened, while ignoring the trillions of dollars invested over several decades to get to this point. If we’d made that same level of investment in clean energy technology, we might have an energy system that functions as efficiently as our information system. The money we’ve personally spent on computers alone could fund a solar array for an entire city block.
What we’ve achieved through online technology is a sustainable, decentralized system of information with limitless inputs and outputs. It is sustainable in a way that the old system is not because it doesn’t rely on a handful of large companies to keep it going, and it spreads the knowledge base and mind share over millions of people as opposed to thousands. It is powered by the collective will and knowledge of all people (potentially). And we’re confident that by harnessing that power in so many different ways, we’ll enable the development and deployment of many other sustainable systems from energy and education to agriculture and transportation. Because sustainability begets more sustainability.
And that is how social media will accelerate sustainability.













16 responses so far ↓
1 Justin Jones // Mar 24, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Why must sustainability apply only to new systems?
2 Max Gladwell // Mar 24, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Justin: Not sure about the nature of your question. Sustainability can apply to any system. But every system cannot be or become sustainable. Most often, you need a new system where sustainability is part of its DNA.
One of our points is that “greening” existing systems only gets you so far. At some point, that system has to become sustainable or else you need a new system. Even if every car was a Prius, it would not make the internal-combustion transportation system sustainable.
3 United States of Consciousness // Mar 24, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Defining sustainability is a part of the problem in our current culture. In terms of systems sustainability makes sense – a system can be fully self-organising and in equilibrium – sustainable or it can be out of balance overall.
However, in terms of mainstream concepts of ‘green’ sustainability is rarely used in a systems context – it is used in the received-wisdom mode of classical disconnected thinking. To me that’s the trouble – we need to get our culture thinking in terms of complex systems (holistic;process;non-categorical) rather than the abstracted linear categorical which has been the foundation of a culture for a few thousand years. Civilisation itself, an its structures, are predicated on non-equilibrium hierarchies. The problem is deep.
4 free karma // Mar 25, 2009 at 10:37 am
sustainability….everything can be sustainable if it is in the right setting at the right time. Is that what you are getting at? I am a bit confused.
5 Max Gladwell // Mar 25, 2009 at 10:57 am
free karma: sustainability is an absolute. our use of oil cannot be sustainable no matter how efficiently we utilize it because it’s a finite, non-renewable resource. there is no way for fossil-fuel use of any kind to be considered sustainable.
everything can be green because green is relative. it simply means less dirty. the Prius is green. it’s more efficient (less dirty). but it’s not sustainable. an electric car that runs on solar power is sustainable.
we can move toward sustainability vis a vis green solutions, which ultimately end up transforming the system from unsustainable to sustainable. but a system or thing cannot become more sustainable. either it is or it isn’t.
6 Ashley // Mar 26, 2009 at 11:43 am
one of the most thoughtful, interesting pieces I’ve read on defining sustainability and green. really well done.
7 Green // Mar 26, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Max, it seems to me that in your absolute terms nothing is sustainable. I also see some self-contradictory concepts in your words.
You say that sustainability is a macro concept, and it applies broadly to entire systems and infrastructures.
But in the Zumbox example, you say “However, the actual system that Zumbox addresses is not energy but rather paper mail.” Here you draw the line on what the “entire system” comprises.
I am not necessarily disagreeing with your point, but I think it is impossible to create absolute lines when it comes to sustainability, especially using the lines you drew here.
8 Max Gladwell // Mar 26, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Green: This post probably deserves a rather lengthy white paper on the topic with some illustrations. The term “systems” is pretty open to interpretation and could be better defined.
What we mean in the above is that systems often overlap with other systems. The USPS is a system that uses several others: energy, transportation, communications, etc. These stand on their own and aren’t reliant on the USPS. If you strip those out and look at the core system, you find one that delivers paper documents as well as parcels. That particular system, which is certainly large enough to be a macro concept, is unsustainable because of the gross misuse of natural resources (trees) and the ecological impact (waste). You can address the system by making it more efficient (i.e. green) by reducing the number of trees it consumes, but greater efficiency alone will never make it sustainable. An entirely new system needs to be developed, where sustainability is part of its DNA.
Cradle to Cradle defines sustainability in absolute terms quite clearly and convincingly. When water can exit a factory cleaner than when it entered, that is a sustainable system. The factory may run on coal power, which is not sustainable, but the system that processes the water still would be.
On the other hand, it’s conceivable that if all of the paper the USPS delivered could return to the soil and decompose organically with no toxins or ecological impact, then the existing system could become sustainable.
9 Glen Ward // Mar 30, 2009 at 2:54 pm
You say, “Zumbox isn’t a green solution. It is a sustainable alternative.”
While that may be true in this context, for those who use Zumbox, it does represent a green solution. Because it does help people or companies to be green by reducing their use of paper and all of the related impacts that come with that.
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11 Green // Apr 9, 2009 at 7:05 pm
while on the topic of “Zumbox isn’t a green solution. It is a sustainable alternative.”, shouldnt it be “Zumbox isn’t a green alternative. It is a sustainable solution.” ?
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14 Judy // May 16, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Would you consider cloud computing a sustainable system? Changes in energy management?
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16 lys001 // Feb 22, 2010 at 1:25 am
Thanks for telling me the difference between sustainable and green. Sustainable is a macro concept and green is a micro concept, thank you!
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